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Money can’t buy happiness, but it turns out talking about money can!

According to the Wall Street Journal, 78% of couples who talk about money on a weekly basis say they are “happy”. Compare this to 60% of those who talk about it every few months, and just 50% who discuss it even less frequently.

We’ll be the first to say, talking about money can be awkward… Hey, we’ve made a whole podcast about it! The reality is, whether you’re swept up in the excitement of new love, or you’ve been together for years, having conversations about your finances can leave people feeling uncomfortable and defensive.

So let’s clear things up right off the bat… If money has ever been in a source of tension in your relationship, you’re not alone! 75% of the YIGC community agreed that money has been a source of tension at some point in their relationship.

You’re probably thinking, remind me why I should be talking about money with my partner?

Well, you should also know that disagreements about finances are a strong predictor of separation and divorce. That means, if you and your partner are wanting to build a life together, money is not a topic to avoid… Both for the sake of your relationship, but also for your mental and financial independence.

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How do you split your finances with your partner?

Have you ever heard someone say that working out with someone increases your chances of achieving your fitness goals?

Well the good news is that the same applies to our finances! Research shows that couples who combine their money (either in part or entirely) are more likely to make better financial decisions. This is because you’re less likely to make unnecessary purchases… or you’ll at least think twice about them… when you’re sharing your hard earned dollars.

So how do you actually do it?

I work in finance so I offered to sit down with my partner and help him with his budget, make sure he allocated enough for monthly/annual bills, emergency fund & savings goals. We automated as much as possible and set clear targets for each savings bucket so he knows what he has left over to spend.

If he does overspend, he now looks for ways to offset it, like selling some old stuff on marketplace. He said he feels much more at ease now knowing that he’s got everything covered.

I’ll admit, he was reluctant to let me in/see everything at first, but I explained I wasn’t there to judge and I just wanted to help. Afterwards, he said he wished he’d let me do it sooner!

It’s also helped ME feel way more trusting of him that if he’s spending money, we both know that it’s within his means. Less bad cop necessary for me!

We are saving for a wedding, so I can also trust that he will hit his goals most months and that his portion of the wedding (based on our earning %) won’t bankrupt him.

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When we surveyed you, 60% of our community in a relationship reported splitting by dollar amounts, versus just 23% who split based on a % of earnings (with others reporting an alternative arrangement).

When it comes to splitting your finances, there’s no one “right” answer. It’s a nuanced topic and as we discussed on this week’s episode, communication is key.

Some couples decide to split everything 50/50 and call it a day. Others said that all their money goes into a shared account, viewing the balance as “our money”. Which leads us to one of our favourite money questions to ask… How much money could you spend without having to “consult” your partner first?

I think it depends on the item. We’ll usually tell one another when we plan on spending $200 or more. We’re open to feedback but ultimately respect that we each have the right to choose…

We had our first child 2 years ago and recently had our second, so the approach lately has been to save as much as possible in the lead up to both births, then budget to make our savings last while I’m on parental leave.

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Another said…

It’s not so much an issue for me, as I’m a saver who buys little so any time I want something, I have money saved up for it!

But my hubby is a collector of 1000 different things (action figures, etc 🤣) so he often will want something and not have the cash for it.. he will either borrow against our joint savings and then pay it back when he can, or sell stuff on marketplace to make more cash!

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I recently read an article about a man who had expressed his love for his wife in an unusual way… (I hope you’re all taking note with Valentine’s Day this week) Instead of an extravagant gift or a surprise trip to a bucket list location, he wrote her a book - a book about their financial life.

Whilst it’s unlikely to be at the top of the list of romantic acts (let’s be real, it’s not on your list at all), it may just be the most romantic gift of all. Disclosing the details of your financial life is actually very intimate, and requires complete trust in your partner.

In this particular instance, the husband had been concerned that his wife had shown little interest in their family’s financial matters. He considered the position she’d be left in should something happen to him, and so this was his love letter to her: a financial guide to everything you would need to know.

Of course, every relationship is different, and while you and your partner don't need to be equally involved in your finances, it’s important that you’re both equally aware and respectful of the other’s perspectives and needs.

Before we move on, a community member raised an interesting point around the impact of age difference when it comes to your financial situation and money goals…

My partner is around 20 years older, which creates a really interesting financial dynamic in our relationship. Given his age, his net worth is significantly more, but my current income is significantly more. Means that if we do 50/50 in all things I’m not contributing to my net worth as much as I’d like!

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Which brings us nicely to our next question…

Have you ever dated someone who made significantly more or less than you?

The reality is, it’s far more common for people to experience income disparity in relationships than it is to be on an equal wage. In fact, it’s the norm! Which is not surprising when you consider that for heterosexual couples, women are being paid 13.3% less on average than their male counterparts (yes, the gender pay gap in Australia is still at 13.3%). But let’s chat about what we think is most important about this topic…

My partner earns more than double what I do and I honestly can’t fathom the sum of money he goes in his bank account each month..

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More than double is a big gap!! It has us wondering, how does this dynamic play out? If you are in a committed relationship, is it fair that the person earning less is using 50% of their income to pay for joint expenses, while the higher earner is only contributing 10%?

Obviously, it’s a nuanced conversation and every relationship is different, but it sparks the question why more couples don’t split based on percentages?

It turns out that this is a hard conversation to start. 51% of you said that starting this conversation would be more difficult than just defaulting to contributing equal dollar amounts. A key contributing factor to this is that it’s often the person that is earning less who is asking to reduce their monetary contribution and even the playing field.

Two common themes came up in some of the lengthy DM conversations we were having with you…

  1. We don’t feel like we have the right language or tools to explain the benefits of % based splitting, to actually bring the conversation up in the first place

  2. It’s not uncommon for the person earning more to become defensive during this conversation

Unfortunately, we often find ourselves in these situations, where we haven’t been taught how to have constructive money conversations or be receptive to other’s suggestions.

Our tip? Start by discussing what your joint future looks like and the goals you both want to work towards. If you can imagine a specific future, it may help to justify certain sacrifices in the now. If you are on the receiving end, try to be open to the conversation and consider the emotions or the experiences of the other person. You don’t have to say yes to it, and certainly not right away. But it’s important to be receptive, ask questions, explore the idea and help your partner to feel heard.

Does being wealthy make someone more attractive?

If you’ve made it to the bottom, let this be your reward… 54% of you answered yes!!! :)

Not explicitly, but it is attractive to see someone who has their sh*t together and does see the value in money

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We thought the above was a nice way of looking at it. But speaking of getting your sh*t together… tomorrow’s episode is with the founder of ClubSup, Sophie McIntyre! We chat through all sorts of juicy topics including Splitwise etiquette with your housemates, and whether or not you can ask your friends to transfer you $$ after hosting them for dinner.

Until next week,
Mads and Soph x

Hey friends, Soph here! I have been in the shoes of starting those tough money conversations with my significant other, with one of the hardest chats being working out when to set up a joint account and how much to contribute… but most of the stress was taken out of it by using Up’s 2UP account feature. We started out splitting our finances slowly, tracking our expenses, then getting comfortable with an ongoing percentage split that worked for us both. Fast forward a few months and we’re onto the joint saver accounts (which feels very adult!), which has kept us both accountable in saving up for the holiday we have coming up at the end of the year. So join us, and 750,000 other young Australians and download Australia’s highest rated banking app. Up is making dealing with money easy for our generation.